Spark_in_darkness ([info]sparkindarkness) wrote,

It’s important to remember how little our lives are valued

To remind us why we fight and why we have to fight. To remind us that we are not safe. It’s important to remember that for so many our very lives and physical safety are worth nothing. It’s important to remember that when we’re pushing for gay rights we’re pushing for our very right to exist and exist as people.


Gay rights activist in Honduras assassinated in drive by shooting. A very brave man - he had been assaulted and persecuted before and now he is dead - at the age of 25. Sadly such violence in Honduras is horrendously common - there are places where our lives are worth less than nothing, where our deaths are celebrated and our pain considered laudable.

Speaking of which, 12 gay men face execution for homosexuality in Iran. 8 of them are teenagers. Kids. They’re killing kids for being gay. Gods preserve us from bigots who care so little for life. Such is how little our lives are valued. Uganda isn’t the only nation seeking to wipe us off the face of the world - not by a long shot.

And talking of Uganda. Many people breathed a sigh of relief that Uganda was dropping the death penalty clause for their horrendous homophobia bill. Don’t take your eyes away yet. That is in no way certain and the proposer of the bill and his supporters want to kill gays still. Don’t let one vague report counter the actuality of what is being pushed - they just want us to look away while they hide the bodies.

Sadly this is a problem that is spreading, Homophobia in government is increasing in Rwandar and there is talk of introducing a law criminalising homosexuality. In Nigeria, where homosexuality is already criminalised and faces brutally harsh punishment in the northern provinces, there is talk of expanding the persecution.

In South Africa (and elsewhere, so very sadly) Lesbians are being raped to ‘correct’ them so low are their bodies valued and so much are they hated that these repellent views are held.

Here we have our lives ended with little state intervention or actually by the state. Here we have a clear message of how little our lives are worth - and it is exacerbated by the world’s general indifference. There are no moves for sanctions or penalties for a nation that does or tries to massacre or torture us wholesale. Aid and trade does not stop just because it happens over the bloodied corpses of homosexuals. Relationships do not sour because of our spilled blood - our lives have no value to far too many.

And in no way is that limited to developing nations, though they may have the most repellent laws and consent to persecution on their books.

First - remember that homosexuality has only been decriminalised in the western world relatively recently. In the UK, we were criminalised in 1967. In parts of the US it was criminalised in some states as late as 2003. 2003 - think about that. And there are still people like this out there, among us I’ve just spent 2 weeks arguing with homophobes DEFENDING the Ugandan kill-gays bill. Don’t say it can’t happen here. Don’t say there aren’t people here that want this



In Utah a gay man was brutally and horrifically beaten to the point where he needed reconstructive surgery on his face by a gang of men. A gang of men attacked him because he was gay. The sentence? A year. This tells you how much gay lives are worth to that court.

In New York a gay man was beaten by bouncers for daring to dance with his partner. Apparently we’re forbidden to dance with our partners unless we’re in a gay bar.

Would you beat ANYONE over who they were dancing with? It takes so little for the homophobes to violently attack us.

In Texas an 18 year old gay men is kidnapped and sexually assaulted. The perpetrators are arrested (though oddly slowly) but the bail is set at a ridiculously low level.

In London, David Kilcullen has been found guilty of murdering one member of a gay couple and brutally assaulting the other. I will watch for his sentencing - but again we saw the damned gay panic defence raised in a court room. Again we had the idea that this could be a justification for violence against us and it wasn’t just laughed down, even if little credence was given to it.


To these people our lives are worth nothing. The sad thing is - I’m not entirely sure the powers that be disagree with them
Tags: faith in humanity dying!, homophobia, stop the world i want to get off, that's pure evil, world politics

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[info]snakey

December 15 2009, 17:21:40 UTC 2 years ago

And decriminalization in N Ireland was in the 80s, wasn't it? :/

[info]sparkindarkness

December 15 2009, 18:01:10 UTC 2 years ago

82. Scotland in 1980

[info]touchstone

December 15 2009, 17:27:19 UTC 2 years ago

Regarding the legality of homosexuality in the States - there have definitely been laws on the books in some states in recent memory that criminalized homosexual sex. The sodomy law in Georgia was repealed at some point after I moved here (so, in the past 13 years), and forbade both anal and oral sex...thus greatly widening the number of people ignoring it! It's worth noting, though, that enforcement was practically nonexistent for quite a long while before it was eventually repealed.

Most of the laws I'm aware of were along those lines. While they may well exist, I'm not AWARE of any states with recently-valid laws that specifically forbade /being/ homosexual...just unenforcable laws about certain sex acts, which would have likely been struck down if anyone had tried to prosecute under them.

[info]sparkindarkness

December 15 2009, 17:59:21 UTC 2 years ago

Firstly though the criminalisation is a threat. It prevents any kind of activism or working for rights and protections because if you are openly gay you can be arressted very easily if they want to. Merely having the law, even unenforced, is a threat and a control


And I don't know if it WAS unenforced - we have to remember that the case of Lawrence vs Texas that eventually repealed America's law was repealed because Lawrence and Garner WERE arrested for consensual gay sex in Lawrence's apartment. I mean, the only reason this was overruled was because Texas DID try to enforce it. AND 3 - THREE - supreme court justices dissented in overruling it. In 1986 a man was arrested before and his appeal overruled by the Supreme Court

[info]touchstone

December 15 2009, 18:09:11 UTC 2 years ago

Oh, I'm the last person who will suggest that unenforced laws are good things. I've been known to go on quite a rant on the topic - relying on prosecutorial discretion to not enforce bad law is a terrible idea. Bad laws should be challenged and repealed, and leaving them on the books and NOT enforcing them just makes them linger.

But for pretty much as long as I've been alive, I knew those laws were holdovers and were on their way out, even if they hadn't all been repealed yet. If I were gay and had a personal stake in them, I might have been less convinced, but I was raised with the assumption that we'd moved past them and it was just going to take a little time for the remnants to be cleaned up. I find the creation of NEW laws in this area much, much more alarming.

[info]sparkindarkness

December 15 2009, 19:22:02 UTC 2 years ago

Agreed. I mean they are enforcing them which is sad but not regularly - what worries me is creeping BAC K of rights because it's an opposite trend and far far scarier

[info]mauracelt

December 15 2009, 19:04:44 UTC 2 years ago

ok, this is dirty nasty business, but someones bound to ask, so let it be me... Just exactly HOW can they arrest someone for the sex they are having? I mean, doesnt someone have to complain about being physically mistreated and if that IS the case, then where the hell are these freaks that want to look into your bedroom window and peep on you? Isnt that against the law? And if so, then the complaint they file should be null and void, does that make sense? WHEn you are en process of commiting a crime how can you dare to file suit on someone you should never have been looking in on to begin with!? Thats a gross violation of the privacy laws, isnt it? (ok, nuf said, Ill sneak off now) *hug*

[info]sparkindarkness

December 15 2009, 19:33:21 UTC 2 years ago

they can arrest someone for any crime - they may have a difficulty proving it in court (or not - if somsone's cohabiting for example)

They have stings and undercover patrols and they trawl and hassle people in known homosexual neighbourhoods, bars etc

It is a violation of privacy - but not all countries have them and for a long time they weren't considered to outweigh "moral" concerns

[info]touchstone

December 15 2009, 21:36:23 UTC 2 years ago

In the US, they've most often (though not always) been 'pile-on' charges added on top of something like rape, sexual assault, or possibly prostitution. In the case of Lawrence vs Texas (which Sparky mentioned above, and which became a Supreme Court case that struck down the remaining anti-sodomy laws in the US), someone with a grudge filed a false report of a disturbance, which caused the police to enter the apartment and find the couple in the midst of sex.

[info]mrmeval

December 16 2009, 02:49:33 UTC 2 years ago

That was bad carpentry in action.

[info]mauracelt

December 16 2009, 12:54:10 UTC 2 years ago

So then the police filed the charges, eh? Sad, they felt intrusive and 'visually violated' so They filed charges of sodomy against the couple they walked in on. *shakes head* yeeegads! And if someone walked in on them while having violent sex with the wife, g/f or that underaged kid they were supposed to be helping out then its not ok, you are violating their privacy and best shut up about it, but two consenting adults in the privacy of home are not allowed to indulge in natural instincts and emotional bonding of flesh. *sigh* sad sad world. This is one of the things that has always bothered me about same sex relationships, the lack of proper privacy being respected rarely holds in legal cases. It just rather pisses me off, is what it does. Humans Are, no matter what we do or whom we care for, we are Still human and those rights stated "Human Rights" should be given to and received by all. The select majority needs some serious enimas to get their heads outa their asses. (excuse the language Sparky)

[info]scaryj

December 16 2009, 21:53:06 UTC 2 years ago

Give me strength! Why people don't point and laught at 'homosexual panic' as a defence amazes me. I wonder how many who believe homosexual panic is legit would laugh at 'lesbian panic'?!

[info]sparkindarkness

December 17 2009, 02:01:30 UTC 2 years ago

They give it credence when they don't treat it as ridiculous - which is very damaging really.

It's depressing and more than a little frightening
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